May The Farce Be With You

The saga continues.

Voting has begun on the future of nineeleven.co.uk – just one problem, it appears they forgot to send the proposals to the 41 people who will be making the decision. But that hasn’t stopped them from voting.

For reasons that cannot be explained, forum controllers have decided to hide the identity of Anthony Beckett from the West Yorkshire Truth Campaign who is challenging Tony Gosling’s position.

Lets have a look at each contender:

Anthony Beckett – View his presenation about aliens and life on Mars. Mr Beckett is a dreaded ‘no-planer’ and is open to the ‘reptilian agenda’.

Tony Gosling – Listen to his presenation about secret societies. Mr Gosling runs Bilderberg.org and is a member of the NUJ. Mr Gosling has been busy removing anti-semitic material from the forum, strange for a Truther but could be argued that it makes him a slightly more credible candidate.

But would this comittee member prefer aliens and TV fakery?

Tony, it is time to wake up and see how much this site has gone downhill under your command. There used to be loads of posts every day but now this has gone down to single figures. Many regulars have left. You let your beliefs get in the way and that is no way to run a form. You call yourself the Editor, yet forums do not have editors. You have started PM’ing users complaining of some sort of conspiracy against you. As a member of the comittee I have unfortunately had to receive far too many complaints about the way you run the forum. You took a unilateral decision on the new domain name and forum and this is not how democracy works. The NeoCons at leats allow an election, even if they do fix it.

Andrew Baker – “Hay Mr can I have a go on your hat?”

Maybe we should all take leasons from the NeoCons? Yum.

The domain name (911forum.org.uk) he refers to is privately registered by Gosling. We’re thinking about buying truthwatchuk.co.uk but maybe we should seek Mr Baker’s permission first.

It should be noted that while the nineeleven.co.uk forum is still a safe haven for the mentally ill, it has come a long way since the days of verbal attacks on the likes of Jon Ronson and Rachel North. Well almost.

Since Gosling took control it has become a virtually ‘no-planer’ free zone and anti-semitic material is being forced out, which has to be commended.

Either way, the forum will continue to cause Truthers to fight amongst themselves… which is most entertaining.

Truther Begs To Be Left Alone

We Are Change Truther muppet and “I’m a troofer, woops no I’m not, wait, yes I am”, Stefan S, has published a begging letter to the 9/11 Cult Watch team requesting they “cease slurring the group Make Wars History”.

Now we’ve been following 9/11 Cult Watch for some time and as far as I can tell they have never mentioned the Make Wars History cult on the Cult Watch Blog. And if the Cult Watch team have made comments elsewhere about the MWH cult, how dare Stef think he can tell them what they can and cannot comment on.

As you’d expect Stef’s statement is filled with contradictions.

First he states:

Your group has tried to imply that Make Wars History is a “new front” for 9/11 Truth, you suggest it is to make the group more saleable – it is nothing of the sort.

But continues to say:

A lot of members of the group also question the events of 9/11, this much is true. There is a very logical reason for this. As you well know (or should after years of single minded obsession with the group) 9/11 Truth is steadfastly against illegal aggressive wars as almost every sane person is. Having been continually insulted, shunned and briefed against by the “big” anti-war groups is it any surprise so many of us have got behind Chris Coverdale when he is willing to accept our support and work with us? Stop the War could have had this all along, but its hierarchy have made it more than clear that if you question the official story of 9/11 you are not welcome.

The attempt to turn anti-war activism into a pissing contest while attacking the Stop the War Colation isn’t going to do him any favours.

The MWH cult might have a new name but it shares the same mentality as the old cult. Of course it would, it’s run by the same people.

He desperately pleads:

Machon is just one of many people involved – leave the rest of us alone.

It seems this Truther is prepared to offer up Machon as a sacrificial lamb after spending years following her orders.

Maybe if Stef wasn’t spending so long organising meetings that are dominated by topics such as the Illuminati, Zionism and “9/11 Inside Job” his begging letter would be taken a little more seriously.

Stef has just exposed the cult’s desperate need for approval.

Thanks Stef, you’re making our job a lot easier.

UPDATE: Larry O’Hara and Paul Scott demolish Stef and make him look like the fool he is.

11th Day Action (April)

Heeeere’s Jimmy!

EDIT: As it turns out, the majority of UK Truthers are not yet aware of the developments mentioned in this report as they have not yet been formally announced by ‘Da Committee’ . It seems Truth Watch UK is more informed about the “Truth” movement than it’s hardcore followers.
Who would have thunk it? 

Word reaches us that madman millionaire, Jimmy Walter, is back on the UK Truth scene to help mobilise the failing movement. We last saw Jimmy back in 2005 with David ’The Messiah’ Shayler during a 9/11 Truth European tour which breifly stumbled into the UK attracting around 600 people at both venues.

Not bad, but no Truther event in Britiain, apart from David ‘The Messiah’ Icke, has managed to pull numbers anywhere near that figure in the last three years.

But don’t worry Truthers, Jimmy has a plan. One of his web sites, www.reopen911.org, will take on ‘national chapters’ forming branches of reopen911.org web sites ending with a .uk, .de or .it suffix to help the franchise expand across Europe.

And ‘ex’ MI5 officer, Annie Machon, also has a plan… to make some cash. She states “Such a website and campaign could attract backing from people with money, which it could only do if it could avoid controversies”. Hmm, now call me misguided but isn’t claiming that ”9/11 was an inside job” controversial?

We should also point out that Jimmy Walter funded the production and distribution of a free DVD, In Plane Site, which is (even in conspiracy circles) regarded as misinformation as it promotes the ‘pod and missile theory‘. Good luck avoiding those controversies Truthers.

You can see Jimmy in full swing here on the ’Penn & Teller: Bullshit!‘ show.

Why Did The Chicken Cross The Road? Because 9/11 Was An Inside Job

Cluck off Jimmy.

New Truth DVD!

Truther Demo

Just because we’re reptilian agents of the Illuminati, it doesn’t mean we can’t have a larf does it?

Truther Threatens To Breach Indymedia Security

Indymedia Truther troll, ‘Messy’, makes a threat to breach Indymedia security and reveal the identity of those who challenge his/her conspiracy theories.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/395207.html?c=on#c192820

I have a wee macro that can help me identify people posting under multiple names on a thread. …

Do you want to confess which names here were actually just you ? It is probably much better for you to admit that rather than have me prove it.

Surely these Truthers do not believe they are above Indymedia guidelines?

UK’s Largest Truther Refuge To Close

But will re-open under new name

So it appears it could be game over for the UK’s largest Truther community. At the hands of domain name owner, Simon Aronowitz, the www.nineeleven.co.uk web site faces closure on June 15 2008.

But before you start jumping for joy, it doesn’t end there.

Following on from Internet discussions, a short notice meeting was held on March 15 in London at the ‘Highgate Hub’ and as expected the turn out was very low with just 15 or 16 attendees.

Instead of my own account here’s a snippet from the meeting minutes posted on a part of the forum they don’t want you to see:

Taken from: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14121

There were 4 ‘hats in the ring’ to take over editorial control: Tony Gosling, Andrew Johnson, Anthony Beckett and Paul Wright (dh).

OK, we now have four Truthers competing for control of www.nineeleven.co.uk;

• Tony Gosling- Webmaster of Bilderberg.org and is somewhat involved with Indymedia Bristol.
• Andrew Johnson- ‘No-planer’ and Chemtrail hunter extraordinaire.
• Anthony Beckett – UFO researcher.
• Paul Wright aka ’dh’ – Can be heard screaming “9/11 was an Inside Job” on Indymedia every full-moon.

It should be noted that most of the names mentioned above believe the World is controlled by Reptilian aliens. A little bird tells me that Tony Gosling and Anthony Beckett are favourites and will face a head-to-head battle.

Now enter www.911forum.org.uk. That’s right, despite numerous arguments about the future of the web site and a blind unwillingness to accept what must be done, the entire database will be shipped off to a new destination very shortly.

Campaign Secretary, Stefan Souppouris, even suggests that Chrisc might take charge of their web development needs. Apparently the Campaign Secretary does not object to extremist behaviour. But oh wait! Souppouris appears to be a member of same cult as Chrisc. Now that explains it.

Silly Souppouris also believes ”changing the name” would magically solve all the problems.

He asks:

Why is this forum seen as the campaign website and what do we need to do to change this?

He then answers his own question with (we have not edited or corrected his grammar):

Because 9/11 is in the title and it is the first page to appear when you goggle “9/11 UK”. When it was called “Peacing it Together” and if it were to be called anything else “The Bigger Picture and The Quest for Truth” for example, it still would have been the first thing thing google threw up with the search – but it would not appear to be an explicitly 9/11 based site and therefore would not be assumed to be the UK 9/11 Truth site – the explanation could even explain it was a forum concerned with 9/11 and the context it sat in the world – it would still be “safe”.

In three words: “Change The Name”

This is pure Truther incompetence at its best. Maybe our article will help him to figure it out. Learning a little history about your own movement goes a long way… keep reading.

Another conspiraloon points out:

Firstly I don’t think that we should be debating this important issue and exposing our organisational weaknesses on a public forum.

Thanks for the heads up! The thread was promptly locked and the discussion moved to a private section of the forum.

Now let me explain something. The debate is in fact about two web sites; the first ‘unofficial’ www.nineeleven.co.uk forum and a second ‘official’ site www.911truthcampaign.net.

Here’s a quick history lesson for you. Despite being controlled by a single group the Truthers continue to deny that both sites are connected.

Nineeleven.co.uk was in fact established as the home of ‘The British 9/11 Truth Campaign’ (see the Internet Archive). After the forum received much criticism for it’s tolerance of racism, even wilder conspiracy theories and attacks on each other, it was deemed necessary to re-brand the web site and embrace all the craziness the little guys could muster.

A new web site was created (www.911truthcampaign.net) and named as the ‘official’ one.

Since then Truthers have denied the two are connected. I must be seeing things. Am I the only one who sees a great big ‘British 9/11 Truth Campaign’ banner advertisement and a donation box asking me to support the Campaign on the front page of www.nineeleven.co.uk?

But what’s this?

Taken from: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14121

Ian Neal’s recollections are different about where and how the final decisions about the forum would be taken. ‘By the Campaign committee’ was definitely agreed.

In their own words; both sites are controlled by a single group and will continue to be. Something we all knew but it’s great to see them admit it, even if it is in secret.

More tidbits bits from their closed meetings over the coming weeks.

Truthers Vs Indymedia

Straight from the horses mouth, a conspiracy group calling themselves ‘Truth Action’ have demanded all 9/11 truth activists hijack and turn global Indymedia web sites into “a tool for 9/11 truth”.

 The broadcast can be heard here http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2008/03//393372.mp3

A self proclaimed spokesman for Indymedia and moderator of the ‘Truth Action’ forum, Chrisc, encourages other truthers to follow in his footsteps to turn Indymedia into a one-stop-shop for all things conspiracy. In reality this man is not a spokesman for Indymedia and is little more than a truth movement cheerleader.

The ‘Truth Action’ web site is strongly linked to the right wing Alex Jones satellite group ’We are Change UK’ and other conspiracy groups who take part in what they call ’11th Day Truth Action’, where they pretend to be an activist for 1 day each month. The ‘activism’ usually involves handing out propaganda flyer’s and films while video taping themselves for exposure on You-Tube.

Numbers have been dwindling over recent months with most ’11th Day Action’ protests gaining support from just 2 or 3 dedicated converts.

Could this be the true motivation behind the truthers demands to seize control of Indymedia?

Is this a dying movement which refuses to go quietly and a last ditch attempt to save what has become an international joke?

‘British 911 Truth Campaign’ Mass Walk Out

“I intend to step down as co-chair at the next AGM and it is my understanding that Annie and Justin, my fellow co-chairs and Belinda, campaign treasurer also intend to step down.” Writes Ian Neal.

With over half of the ‘British 911 Truth Campaign’ committee walking (or is that running?) from the mess they have created over the last 6 years, prepare yourself for another ego – fueled battle for the number one spot.

You would expect that lessons were learnt from past experiences but your average truther isn’t that smart. Instead, the majority of soon-to-be ex ‘Campaign’ committee members have another bright idea, forming a new group to make themselves more attractive to the anti-war movement.

The creation of a new web site ‘Make PovertyWar History’ and a sudden need to “Distance themselves from 9/11 truth” is raising suspicions about their motives. The more skeptical of you might assume that Annie Machon has been given a new brief; to once again infiltrate the anti-war movement.

This new campaign hopes to achieve its completely realistic goal and “End war by 2010″.

Hurrah! Finally we have a group prepared to end war!

One only has to wonder if they will be as successful as their last ambition to ‘create an independent investigation into the events of September Eleventh’.

Having thrown in the towel, they now set themselves the much simpler task of ending global war.

I swear this is not a joke.